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in school is health practices, their diet, their sleeping and also the school environment that they're in so having a school environment based on caring and respect, one where discipline is equitable and fair and not suspended for things they shouldn't be and rigorous curriculum that's based on high expectations so that means having ap classes and honors classes and enrichment programs at the schools. all help black males to achieve in school. >> james, you contend that charity is not justice and that philanthropy is not policy. what do you mean? >> well, charity is not justice is my quote. i think the question is about scale. i don't disagree with either of our guests here. i think they're right in their assessment of it and starting the conversation but the question for me is about scale and while i appreciate and applaud all of the foundations at the table and the corporations that will come to the table, i think the federal government's got to be at the table to bring to scale the things that ivory's talking about. talking about nutrition in the public school system, if you want to talk
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